If you are looking for Glamour, Gadgets and Grissom you won't find them here. Forget what you think you know about 'Forensics', these are the tales of one man and his brush. Of course these views do not represent the views of any Police Force or indeed reflect any Force Policies ya da ya.

Tuesday, 12 February 2008

Attach of Clones.

Every now and then our department gets it's very own, fresh out of the box, wet behind the ears Probationer Constable attached to our office for a day or two to learn the ways of CSI. Without an air of cynicism about them and overwhelming puppy-like enthusiasm they lap up our every word as gospel and vow never to contaminate a scene for as long as they wear the blue cloth. It's useful to 'get' to them at this stage in their career before they get influenced by the more experienced cynical weather-worn Officers.

Whenever I'm preaching to the probationers, I drill into them, please do not listen to anyone else but my colleagues and I in forensic matters, because, and lets not beat around the bush here, a lot of Officers on the street haven't a clue! If you have ever seen those fly-on-the-wall programmes that follow Officers around the streets, you'll notice that barely any of them put a pair of gloves on before, picking up the bloodied knife, searching the car or bagging up stolen property in fact those that do could be counted on a single gloveless hand. If you are ever near my house when these shows are on (not that I make a habit of watching them) you will hear a high pitched scream along the lines of 'Put some bloody gloves on!!'

This may sound like a trivial moan, but if you knew how much work actually goes into enhancing, lifting, scanning/photographing, examining and identifying those marks, then perhaps Officers may think twice about pawing their dirty mitts all over our scenes. I appreciate that when responding to some scenes the dynamic element sometimes puts other priorities first and that's understandable, but if you do handle something then just 'fess up, it just makes the process even easier, yes we may have a little giggle at your expense but it's all for the greater good.

Now I know you are taught in Training School not to wear gloves because you may wipe marks off the surface, but this is crap advice, your own fingerprints will either do the same or overlay the existing mark making them unusable. My advice is wear gloves and handle everything carefully and where possible don't touch it at all.

Join me next week when I'll be teaching grannies to suck eggs.

67 comments:

PCSO Bloggs said...

Perhaps there should be some kind of input during initial training for probationers? Just a thought..or is that already incorporated.

Whichendbites said...

Contamination of scene ?........if only.

Anonymous said...

At training school I was taught that if I was thoughtless enough not to carry spare latex gloves with me, then to walk around with my hands in my pockets. Does this no longer apply?
Plodnomore

CSI:UK said...

He He thats good advice Anon, think I might use that one.

pcso - I think the best approach is the attachment as it'a more Hands On (oh the Irony!)

Anonymous said...

Does this Constitute Evidence.
Watch the Building fall, Never before in History has a Steel structured Building collapsed due to fire
because the Fire is not hot enough to Melt the steel to make it collapse.
Yet on 9/11 THREE Steel Buildings collapse, at free fall speed, neatly into their Own FootPrints
http://www.911blogger.com/node/6054

Larry Silverstein (who bought the Buildings 6 weeks before 9/11 AND Insured them against terrorist attacks [How lucky was that] ) saus the Buildings were Pulled. Now the Word 'Pull' is a demolition term which means, Demolish.
A building of this size would take literally weeks to prepare for demolition, this begs the question then, When was it prepared.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC0qGJ3M7KI


The BBC and Fox News Reported the collapse of Building 7 20 Minutes before it did,
in fact on her report. the building can be seen behind her.
When Questioned Over this, the BBC say they have now LOST their 9/11 tapes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/02/part_of_the_conspiracy.html


Many thousands of Scholars Question this, Jet fuel Does NOT Burn hot enough to Melt steel.
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhyIndeedDidtheWorldTradeCenterBuildingsCompletelyCollapse.pdf

Japanese Government on TV Openly Questions the Official 9/11 view as a 'fairy story'
http://www.911blogger.com/node/13392

German Secret service and the Ex Italian PM says that Intellligence agencies know 9/11 was an Inside Job
http://www.prisonplanet.com/021104vonbuelow.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/120407_common_knowledge.htm
Japanese Parliament questions 9/11
http://www.911blogger.com/node/13340
http://www.911blogger.com/node/12215



There are similar Problmes with the British Tube Bombings, witness statements etc being 'picked'
The Met saying they have witnesses who saw them on the 7:40 BUT the 7:40 was cancelled that day.

Can you disperse this Information to make it more widely Known.

CSI:UK said...

Anon, please don't use the comments section of my blog again for your paranoid lunatic ramblings. To think that any Government (no matter how useless and corrupt) could sanction the death of thousands of innocents all for a bit more oil and power is ridiculous. You sir are an idiot, anyone can cherry-pick information to support a theory, I wonder how much 'expert' information you actually left out because they didn't fit into the stories in your Tin-Foil cover head.

Muskateer said...

Do you think the FBI and NYPD CS Units wore gloves though ?
Maybe it was a conspiracy with the people at Purple Nitrile to help shift a huge glove mountain caused by the fact rookie cops never wore them...

Discuss..

Seriously though, as a CSI "Up North" I'm sick and tired about explaining the facts about glove boxes, door handles and other daily annoyances to officers who, unfortunately for them keep forgetting what i told them.
Wearing gloves is way down on my list of things to magnum boot into there thick skulls..

Anonymous said...

Dunno what force you are, but we now spend a day with SOCO at 'training school' and are told to wear gloves, etc etc

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